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falsotempesta) wrote2011-09-14 04:12 am
falsotempesta) wrote2011-09-14 04:12 am
...we are terrible people.
Chrome updated to post-Shimon somewhat recently! This was all well and good on its own, but she went and asked 'Dera about Spade. The inconsistency being pointed out then lead to 'Dera forming a certain theory. Things snowballed in chat and the tl;dr version is under the cut, but let's have a more condensed version to start with.
Basically, the island has been trolling Giotto for nearly two years (and somehow even explained a couple of old OOC problems along the way).
► Tsuna has more or less screwed up Thal's plans in some way every time she's made a move, and Giotto has the potential to be just as much trouble because he has similar abilities. The only difference between these two was that Tsuna had Guardians to threaten and Giotto didn't, so Giotto was a little more free to act.
► The island should have grabbed the "real" first gen Guardians, but didn't for whatever reason (in reality, Ryu, Val, and Nebbia were tossed into the game before canon expanded on the first generation and made our group fake). Whether it was Cyriana/Thalassa/both that had a hand in it, this was a test of control in more ways than one.
► The memories of the entire cast were altered a bit, exactly to prevent inconsistencies like the mention of Spade ruining everything--affection for the substitute Guardians had to be established before that was allowed to happen.
► This also explains why Enma never got a solid explanation as to what happened with Cozart--it involved Spade as a major player, and therefore memory of it got messy (in reality, it was because the Shimon arc was currently on-going and accurately explaining anything was impossible).
► As of 12/28/11 it somehow got worse. Basically this twist is so trolltastic, it's...trolling us back.
'Dera (10:13:39 PM): ...It would be pretty concerning if she was able to use the souls of the dead and form them into something like that. ItwouldatleastexplainwhyhelooksmorelikeDerathanhedoesG.
Revvy (10:13:53 PM): .... ogawd
Tsunafish (10:13:58 PM): god damnit thal xD
Revvy (10:14:00 PM): ......
Revvy (10:14:17 PM): and Moto did die at least once before Ryu showed up tpp
Revvy (10:14:19 PM): *too
Tsunafish (10:14:22 PM): ..yes I think I definitely need a shinigami around.
Tsunafish (10:14:35 PM): ..and Chrome before Nebbia.
'Dera (10:14:35 PM): ksdhnglkdfjg'
'Dera (10:14:39 PM): FUCK.
Tsunafish (10:14:43 PM): HOW DOES THIS KEEP MAKING SENSE
Revvy (10:14:46 PM): IDEK
Tsunafish (10:14:46 PM): what the fuck
'Dera (10:14:51 PM): I DON'T KNOW/
'Dera (10:14:55 PM): *SOBS.*
Tsunafish (10:14:57 PM): ..I feel trolled.
'Dera (10:15:15 PM): ...If so we're trolling ourselves.
'Dera (10:15:19 PM): HOW DOES THAT SHIT HAPPEN?
Round 1:
Dera (9:19:07 PM): Also. Gokudera is not going to be mentioning to Val his other theory on the matter. xD
Tsunafish (9:19:13 PM): xD
Dera (9:19:17 PM): He's pretty sure it's for the best.
Tsunafish (9:19:21 PM): Yeeah.
Dera (9:19:41 PM): Oh, Gokudera and his paranoia.
Tsunafish (9:20:20 PM): ..it would be terrible if Giotto was actually the same one and something made him realize it. xD
Dera (9:20:47 PM): OH god.
Dera (9:20:55 PM): More train wrecks. Clearly the mafia needs these.
Tsunafish (9:21:01 PM): Clearly.
Tsunafish (9:21:42 PM): ..see, this is why I need to find a villain. Because otherwise terrible ideas just target everyone else. xD
Dera (9:22:40 PM): The whole reason he never explained the whole thing with the Shimon to Enma.
Dera (9:22:50 PM): Was because he was actually confused.
Dera (9:23:59 PM): Not because he couldn't handle it but because it made no sense to him. *shotdown*
Tsunafish (9:24:17 PM): yeah see, it makes sense. xD
Tsunafish (9:24:28 PM): it's kind of scary. xD
Dera (9:24:34 PM): It kind of is.
Tsunafish (9:24:34 PM): but it could cover a lot of bases.
Dera (9:25:23 PM): IE: Gokudera is at least partially right with his paranoia-induced idea.
Dera (9:26:15 PM): ---Which if this is the case. It was also explain why Giotto has been so unbalanced.
Dera (9:26:34 PM): Because if he's been half-remembering things differently. And he would have noticed.
Dera (9:26:43 PM): He probably wouldn't have discussed it with anyone.
Tsunafish (9:26:49 PM): This is some hardcore trolling right here.
Dera (9:27:07 PM): Which would have meant it was bottled up inside. Just a little more shit to throw on his plate.
Dera (9:27:19 PM): It kind of is. XD
Tsunafish (9:27:31 PM): Fff. xD
Dera (9:28:20 PM): And thinking on it this way.
Dera (9:29:10 PM): The idea of someone's feelings being used as a means of control.
Dera (9:29:42 PM): Well. Look at what erupted between Revya and Giotto as a result of Giotto's feelings towards Val.
Dera (9:29:45 PM): And also Ryu.
Dera (9:30:26 PM): It couldn't have happened without those feelings.
Tsunafish (9:30:34 PM): ...yeah.
Dera (9:30:53 PM): ...Gdit. xD
Dera (9:31:23 PM): But what's more. Is even if Giotto DID realize what was going on.
Dera (9:31:38 PM): Regardless of the truth of the situation.
Dera (9:32:04 PM): He DOES care about Val and Nebbia and Ryu too. It wouldn't really change that at this point.
Dera (9:32:37 PM): So if that was going on. Even him realizing it wouldn't really change the situation too much. Because he wouldn't mention it to any of them.
Tsunafish (9:32:59 PM): ..just don't implode carrying that all by yourself.
Dera (9:33:26 PM): I know right? @.@
Tsunafish (9:33:58 PM): Fff. xD
Dera (9:35:06 PM): sdkfjl
Tsunafish (9:35:31 PM): why does this make so much sense, fff.
Dera (9:37:29 PM): Because we are assholes. XD
Dera (9:37:41 PM): Somehow.
Tsunafish (9:37:42 PM): xD
Dera (9:37:48 PM): It DOES fit scarily well.
Dera (9:38:27 PM): ...I blame Gokudera and his paranoia still.
Tsunafish (9:38:32 PM): gdi 'dera
Tsunafish (9:38:44 PM): you have uncovered so much trolling.
Dera (9:39:51 PM): Also thinking about it.
Dera (9:40:04 PM): Tsuna has already caused quite a bit of trouble for the mermaids.
Dera (9:40:36 PM): ...Though he's also had weaknesses around i nthe form of friends. So if it ever got too bad. Well.
Dera (9:41:13 PM): If Giotto came - who's abilities were quite similar - and there were no 'weaknesses' like friends.
Dera (9:41:18 PM): It could have become a problem.
Tsunafish (9:41:34 PM): God damnit. xD This sort of has to happen now.
Dera (9:41:45 PM): Ffft.
Dera (9:42:17 PM): This is terrible. xD
Tsunafish (9:42:27 PM): It is.
Dera (9:42:34 PM): Giotto's mind = fucked.
Tsunafish (9:42:38 PM): Ffff.
Tsunafish (9:42:46 PM): Why am I allowed to talk. xD
Dera (9:42:49 PM): xD
Tsunafish (9:42:59 PM): SORRY BOSSU
Dera (9:43:09 PM): Ffff.
Dera (9:45:02 PM): Somehow.
Dera (9:45:08 PM): I see Val coming home and being like.
Dera (9:45:17 PM): So this Spade dude. You heard of him, Bossu?
Dera (9:45:26 PM): FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF. <-- Giotto. His mind exploding.
Tsunafish (9:45:29 PM): kjdshfjf
Dera (9:51:37 PM): Giotto might be fine as long as none of the other Guardians show up. XD
Tsunafish (9:51:56 PM): xD
Tsunafish (9:52:27 PM): Probably a good thing Aya-tan never apped Spade, then.
Dera (9:52:43 PM): That was destined to explode regardless as it was. XD
Tsunafish (9:52:49 PM): well yes
Dera (9:52:50 PM): If it happened, I mean. xD
Tsunafish (9:53:01 PM): but now it would be a million times worse. xD
Dera (9:53:14 PM): It really could. XD
Tsunafish (9:53:44 PM): Fff.
Round 2:
Dera (9:57:47 PM): Make a Dear_Mun post. Giotto will just flip a table. That is all.
Tsunafish (9:57:52 PM): jdshf
Tsunafish (9:57:58 PM): flip a table onto Spade
Tsunafish (9:58:02 PM): because this is all his fault
Tsunafish (9:58:14 PM): .well technically it's Chrome's I guess.
Tsunafish (9:58:16 PM): BUT STILL.
Dera (9:58:19 PM): well.
Dera (9:58:25 PM): If we go this route.
Dera (9:58:30 PM): Then undoubtedly.
Dera (9:58:35 PM): Giotto would have noticed something.
Dera (9:59:08 PM): And just never said anything. Mentioning Spade would just finalize to him that something REALLY FUCKED UP has been happening.
Tsunafish (10:00:55 PM): this is so horrible I can't even get over it. xD
Dera (10:00:58 PM): It.
Dera (10:01:01 PM): Really. Effing.
Dera (10:01:02 PM): Is.
Tsunafish (10:01:09 PM): I'm flailing about it at people that don't even know what the fuck I'm talking about xD
Dera (10:01:11 PM): BUT IT FUCKING FITS.
Tsunafish (10:01:14 PM): IT DOES
Tsunafish (10:01:18 PM): That's the scary part. xD
Dera (10:01:20 PM): WHICH IS THE WORST PART.
Tsunafish (10:01:24 PM): It would explain so many things.
Dera (10:01:28 PM): It would.
Tsunafish (10:01:31 PM): Fuck. xD
Dera (10:01:42 PM): Juudaime.
Dera (10:01:44 PM): I am sorry but.
Dera (10:01:52 PM): We are douchebags. This finalizes it.
Revvy (10:01:59 PM): .... you should do it /NOT HELPING
Tsunafish (10:02:02 PM): Y-yes.
Dera (10:02:06 PM): Trolltastic douchebags.
Tsunafish (10:02:11 PM): I think we sort of have to by this point.
Dera (10:02:17 PM): Pretty much.
Revvy (10:02:21 PM): LAN IS KUFUING OVER HERE NOW
Tsunafish (10:02:23 PM): Ffffuu. xD
Dera (10:02:24 PM): BUT ALSO.
Dera (10:02:32 PM): Remember when he was talking with Enma?
Dera (10:02:47 PM): About Cozart? And what happened? And he never really gave information.
Tsunafish (10:02:53 PM): Yyyep.
Dera (10:03:08 PM): BECAUSE HE KNEW IT MADE NO SENSE. WHAT HE REMEMBERED MADE NO GOD DAMN SENSE.
Dera (10:03:28 PM): Fff.
Tsunafish (10:03:30 PM): SOB
Round 3:
Tsunafish (12:08:24 AM): that was entirely counterproductive omg
Dera (12:08:30 AM): ?
Tsunafish (12:08:45 AM): I. Might've realized something that makes it worse.
Dera (12:08:50 AM): ..Oh god wat.
Dera (12:09:10 AM): ...And nothing quite like a good shower to get you thinking, right? xD
Tsunafish (12:09:20 AM): fff apparently xD
Tsunafish (12:10:29 AM): so like. if they are indeed made up by the island/cyri/thal/whatthefuckever then. Well, they can be manipulated that much more easily.
Dera (12:10:37 AM): Yeep.
Tsunafish (12:10:41 AM): ..that was awkwardly phrased but yes
Dera (12:10:50 AM): Terribly enough.
Dera (12:10:53 AM): While I was in the shower.
Dera (12:10:58 AM): I was thinking about the same sort of thing. XD
Tsunafish (12:11:02 AM): xD ff
Tsunafish (12:11:08 AM): god we are terrible.
Dera (12:11:16 AM): We... really are. xD
Dera (12:11:23 AM): ...Giotto agrees.
Tsunafish (12:11:32 AM): I'm sorry I'm such a threat to your mental health orz
Dera (12:13:25 AM): God. I kind of feel sorry for Giotto. XD
Revvy (12:13:35 AM): sob
Tsunafish (12:13:43 AM): j-just a little bit
Dera (12:13:47 AM): He is getting so mentally/emotionally fucked.
Tsunafish (12:14:12 AM): Yyyyeah.
Dera (12:14:23 AM): It also does not help that.
Dera (12:14:27 AM): He has feelings for Val.
Tsunafish (12:14:38 AM): Ahaha, no, no it doesn't.
Round 4:
Dera (12:55:16 AM): ...Giotto-muse is displeased so much. Fff.
Dera (12:55:37 AM): ...Not that his opinion matters. He'll just have to deal.
Revvy (12:55:42 AM): ;;;
Tsunafish (12:55:42 AM): sob xD
Tsunafish (12:55:44 AM): fff.
Revvy (12:56:07 AM): Revvy: >:
Tsunafish (12:56:27 AM): just be grateful we aren't likely to get the "real" ones anytime soon, man.
Dera (12:56:41 AM): ...N-No kidding.
Tsunafish (12:57:00 AM): nngh.
Dera (12:57:10 AM): If Giotto makes it off this island without breaking.
Dera (12:57:15 AM): It will be a miracle.
Revvy (12:57:19 AM): XD
Tsunafish (12:57:19 AM): sob
Dera (12:57:30 AM): ---actually.
Dera (12:57:33 AM): On that note.
Dera (12:57:54 AM): About breaking people.
Revvy (12:58:01 AM): ... ogawdwhat
Dera (12:58:07 AM): Doesn't that just make them easier targets for the merwhores.
Revvy (12:58:26 AM): ... kufu~?
Dera (12:58:32 AM): FFF.
Tsunafish (12:58:38 AM): ahahaha
Dera (12:58:50 AM): Why does this all work so well it hurts>
Tsunafish (12:58:58 AM): I-I don't know
Revvy (12:59:01 AM): XD
Revvy (12:59:08 AM): because it was meant to be?
Tsunafish (12:59:17 AM): Amano is such a troll it's affecting things like this
Tsunafish (12:59:23 AM): HOW DOES SHE DO IT
Revvy (12:59:46 AM): .... I kinda wonder if whatever Team Persona + Fran find underground should hint to this
Tsunafish (12:59:54 AM): oh snap.
Round 5:
Dera (1:02:06 AM): I... Honestly don't know how Giotto would respond if Val asked him about Spade.
Tsunafish (1:02:34 AM): xD
Tsunafish (1:03:07 AM): He...probably won't. At least not for a while.
Tsunafish (1:03:35 AM): Actually, I don't think there's really a reason to ask.
Tsunafish (1:03:42 AM): But. It's possible Spade might be mentioned.
Tsunafish (1:04:18 AM): in a sort of... 'this weird parallel bullshit is going on' sort of way.
Dera (1:04:38 AM): Yeah. XD
Dera (1:04:52 AM): Giotto would... probably just go along with it.
Tsunafish (1:05:13 AM): xD
Dera (1:05:42 AM): But if he did notice inconsistencies with his memories. Then Spade was mentioned.
Dera (1:06:17 AM): It would definitely kind of click into place that something was going on. Probably not knowing exactly what. But it would definitely be a sign to him.
Round 6:
Tsunafish (1:26:05 AM): I just find it terribly sad that in the event Giotto breaks, Val..isn't going to be able to make it better. Because he's part of the problem. xD
Dera (1:26:19 AM): kjdfsjlf
Dera (1:27:01 AM): ...Also given Val probably wouldn't even know why.
Dera (1:27:24 AM): Because Giotto isn't going to tell him. So Val would have to find out on his own to begin with.
Tsunafish (1:27:36 AM): Yeep.
Dera (1:27:53 AM): Hell, it would probably even be put down to the who Revya situation.
Dera (1:28:04 AM): whole^
Dera (1:29:39 AM): Unless that gets resolved first.
Tsunafish (1:29:56 AM): ..if it ever does. xD
Dera (1:30:13 AM): Who knows at this point. XD
Tsunafish (1:30:21 AM): it is a mystery
Basically, the island has been trolling Giotto for nearly two years (and somehow even explained a couple of old OOC problems along the way).
► Tsuna has more or less screwed up Thal's plans in some way every time she's made a move, and Giotto has the potential to be just as much trouble because he has similar abilities. The only difference between these two was that Tsuna had Guardians to threaten and Giotto didn't, so Giotto was a little more free to act.
► The island should have grabbed the "real" first gen Guardians, but didn't for whatever reason (in reality, Ryu, Val, and Nebbia were tossed into the game before canon expanded on the first generation and made our group fake). Whether it was Cyriana/Thalassa/both that had a hand in it, this was a test of control in more ways than one.
► The memories of the entire cast were altered a bit, exactly to prevent inconsistencies like the mention of Spade ruining everything--affection for the substitute Guardians had to be established before that was allowed to happen.
► This also explains why Enma never got a solid explanation as to what happened with Cozart--it involved Spade as a major player, and therefore memory of it got messy (in reality, it was because the Shimon arc was currently on-going and accurately explaining anything was impossible).
► As of 12/28/11 it somehow got worse. Basically this twist is so trolltastic, it's...trolling us back.
'Dera (10:13:39 PM): ...It would be pretty concerning if she was able to use the souls of the dead and form them into something like that. ItwouldatleastexplainwhyhelooksmorelikeDerathanhedoesG.
Revvy (10:13:53 PM): .... ogawd
Tsunafish (10:13:58 PM): god damnit thal xD
Revvy (10:14:00 PM): ......
Revvy (10:14:17 PM): and Moto did die at least once before Ryu showed up tpp
Revvy (10:14:19 PM): *too
Tsunafish (10:14:22 PM): ..yes I think I definitely need a shinigami around.
Tsunafish (10:14:35 PM): ..and Chrome before Nebbia.
'Dera (10:14:35 PM): ksdhnglkdfjg'
'Dera (10:14:39 PM): FUCK.
Tsunafish (10:14:43 PM): HOW DOES THIS KEEP MAKING SENSE
Revvy (10:14:46 PM): IDEK
Tsunafish (10:14:46 PM): what the fuck
'Dera (10:14:51 PM): I DON'T KNOW/
'Dera (10:14:55 PM): *SOBS.*
Tsunafish (10:14:57 PM): ..I feel trolled.
'Dera (10:15:15 PM): ...If so we're trolling ourselves.
'Dera (10:15:19 PM): HOW DOES THAT SHIT HAPPEN?
Round 1:
Dera (9:19:07 PM): Also. Gokudera is not going to be mentioning to Val his other theory on the matter. xD
Tsunafish (9:19:13 PM): xD
Dera (9:19:17 PM): He's pretty sure it's for the best.
Tsunafish (9:19:21 PM): Yeeah.
Dera (9:19:41 PM): Oh, Gokudera and his paranoia.
Tsunafish (9:20:20 PM): ..it would be terrible if Giotto was actually the same one and something made him realize it. xD
Dera (9:20:47 PM): OH god.
Dera (9:20:55 PM): More train wrecks. Clearly the mafia needs these.
Tsunafish (9:21:01 PM): Clearly.
Tsunafish (9:21:42 PM): ..see, this is why I need to find a villain. Because otherwise terrible ideas just target everyone else. xD
Dera (9:22:40 PM): The whole reason he never explained the whole thing with the Shimon to Enma.
Dera (9:22:50 PM): Was because he was actually confused.
Dera (9:23:59 PM): Not because he couldn't handle it but because it made no sense to him. *shotdown*
Tsunafish (9:24:17 PM): yeah see, it makes sense. xD
Tsunafish (9:24:28 PM): it's kind of scary. xD
Dera (9:24:34 PM): It kind of is.
Tsunafish (9:24:34 PM): but it could cover a lot of bases.
Dera (9:25:23 PM): IE: Gokudera is at least partially right with his paranoia-induced idea.
Dera (9:26:15 PM): ---Which if this is the case. It was also explain why Giotto has been so unbalanced.
Dera (9:26:34 PM): Because if he's been half-remembering things differently. And he would have noticed.
Dera (9:26:43 PM): He probably wouldn't have discussed it with anyone.
Tsunafish (9:26:49 PM): This is some hardcore trolling right here.
Dera (9:27:07 PM): Which would have meant it was bottled up inside. Just a little more shit to throw on his plate.
Dera (9:27:19 PM): It kind of is. XD
Tsunafish (9:27:31 PM): Fff. xD
Dera (9:28:20 PM): And thinking on it this way.
Dera (9:29:10 PM): The idea of someone's feelings being used as a means of control.
Dera (9:29:42 PM): Well. Look at what erupted between Revya and Giotto as a result of Giotto's feelings towards Val.
Dera (9:29:45 PM): And also Ryu.
Dera (9:30:26 PM): It couldn't have happened without those feelings.
Tsunafish (9:30:34 PM): ...yeah.
Dera (9:30:53 PM): ...Gdit. xD
Dera (9:31:23 PM): But what's more. Is even if Giotto DID realize what was going on.
Dera (9:31:38 PM): Regardless of the truth of the situation.
Dera (9:32:04 PM): He DOES care about Val and Nebbia and Ryu too. It wouldn't really change that at this point.
Dera (9:32:37 PM): So if that was going on. Even him realizing it wouldn't really change the situation too much. Because he wouldn't mention it to any of them.
Tsunafish (9:32:59 PM): ..just don't implode carrying that all by yourself.
Dera (9:33:26 PM): I know right? @.@
Tsunafish (9:33:58 PM): Fff. xD
Dera (9:35:06 PM): sdkfjl
Tsunafish (9:35:31 PM): why does this make so much sense, fff.
Dera (9:37:29 PM): Because we are assholes. XD
Dera (9:37:41 PM): Somehow.
Tsunafish (9:37:42 PM): xD
Dera (9:37:48 PM): It DOES fit scarily well.
Dera (9:38:27 PM): ...I blame Gokudera and his paranoia still.
Tsunafish (9:38:32 PM): gdi 'dera
Tsunafish (9:38:44 PM): you have uncovered so much trolling.
Dera (9:39:51 PM): Also thinking about it.
Dera (9:40:04 PM): Tsuna has already caused quite a bit of trouble for the mermaids.
Dera (9:40:36 PM): ...Though he's also had weaknesses around i nthe form of friends. So if it ever got too bad. Well.
Dera (9:41:13 PM): If Giotto came - who's abilities were quite similar - and there were no 'weaknesses' like friends.
Dera (9:41:18 PM): It could have become a problem.
Tsunafish (9:41:34 PM): God damnit. xD This sort of has to happen now.
Dera (9:41:45 PM): Ffft.
Dera (9:42:17 PM): This is terrible. xD
Tsunafish (9:42:27 PM): It is.
Dera (9:42:34 PM): Giotto's mind = fucked.
Tsunafish (9:42:38 PM): Ffff.
Tsunafish (9:42:46 PM): Why am I allowed to talk. xD
Dera (9:42:49 PM): xD
Tsunafish (9:42:59 PM): SORRY BOSSU
Dera (9:43:09 PM): Ffff.
Dera (9:45:02 PM): Somehow.
Dera (9:45:08 PM): I see Val coming home and being like.
Dera (9:45:17 PM): So this Spade dude. You heard of him, Bossu?
Dera (9:45:26 PM): FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF. <-- Giotto. His mind exploding.
Tsunafish (9:45:29 PM): kjdshfjf
Dera (9:51:37 PM): Giotto might be fine as long as none of the other Guardians show up. XD
Tsunafish (9:51:56 PM): xD
Tsunafish (9:52:27 PM): Probably a good thing Aya-tan never apped Spade, then.
Dera (9:52:43 PM): That was destined to explode regardless as it was. XD
Tsunafish (9:52:49 PM): well yes
Dera (9:52:50 PM): If it happened, I mean. xD
Tsunafish (9:53:01 PM): but now it would be a million times worse. xD
Dera (9:53:14 PM): It really could. XD
Tsunafish (9:53:44 PM): Fff.
Round 2:
Dera (9:57:47 PM): Make a Dear_Mun post. Giotto will just flip a table. That is all.
Tsunafish (9:57:52 PM): jdshf
Tsunafish (9:57:58 PM): flip a table onto Spade
Tsunafish (9:58:02 PM): because this is all his fault
Tsunafish (9:58:14 PM): .well technically it's Chrome's I guess.
Tsunafish (9:58:16 PM): BUT STILL.
Dera (9:58:19 PM): well.
Dera (9:58:25 PM): If we go this route.
Dera (9:58:30 PM): Then undoubtedly.
Dera (9:58:35 PM): Giotto would have noticed something.
Dera (9:59:08 PM): And just never said anything. Mentioning Spade would just finalize to him that something REALLY FUCKED UP has been happening.
Tsunafish (10:00:55 PM): this is so horrible I can't even get over it. xD
Dera (10:00:58 PM): It.
Dera (10:01:01 PM): Really. Effing.
Dera (10:01:02 PM): Is.
Tsunafish (10:01:09 PM): I'm flailing about it at people that don't even know what the fuck I'm talking about xD
Dera (10:01:11 PM): BUT IT FUCKING FITS.
Tsunafish (10:01:14 PM): IT DOES
Tsunafish (10:01:18 PM): That's the scary part. xD
Dera (10:01:20 PM): WHICH IS THE WORST PART.
Tsunafish (10:01:24 PM): It would explain so many things.
Dera (10:01:28 PM): It would.
Tsunafish (10:01:31 PM): Fuck. xD
Dera (10:01:42 PM): Juudaime.
Dera (10:01:44 PM): I am sorry but.
Dera (10:01:52 PM): We are douchebags. This finalizes it.
Revvy (10:01:59 PM): .... you should do it /NOT HELPING
Tsunafish (10:02:02 PM): Y-yes.
Dera (10:02:06 PM): Trolltastic douchebags.
Tsunafish (10:02:11 PM): I think we sort of have to by this point.
Dera (10:02:17 PM): Pretty much.
Revvy (10:02:21 PM): LAN IS KUFUING OVER HERE NOW
Tsunafish (10:02:23 PM): Ffffuu. xD
Dera (10:02:24 PM): BUT ALSO.
Dera (10:02:32 PM): Remember when he was talking with Enma?
Dera (10:02:47 PM): About Cozart? And what happened? And he never really gave information.
Tsunafish (10:02:53 PM): Yyyep.
Dera (10:03:08 PM): BECAUSE HE KNEW IT MADE NO SENSE. WHAT HE REMEMBERED MADE NO GOD DAMN SENSE.
Dera (10:03:28 PM): Fff.
Tsunafish (10:03:30 PM): SOB
Round 3:
Tsunafish (12:08:24 AM): that was entirely counterproductive omg
Dera (12:08:30 AM): ?
Tsunafish (12:08:45 AM): I. Might've realized something that makes it worse.
Dera (12:08:50 AM): ..Oh god wat.
Dera (12:09:10 AM): ...And nothing quite like a good shower to get you thinking, right? xD
Tsunafish (12:09:20 AM): fff apparently xD
Tsunafish (12:10:29 AM): so like. if they are indeed made up by the island/cyri/thal/whatthefuckever then. Well, they can be manipulated that much more easily.
Dera (12:10:37 AM): Yeep.
Tsunafish (12:10:41 AM): ..that was awkwardly phrased but yes
Dera (12:10:50 AM): Terribly enough.
Dera (12:10:53 AM): While I was in the shower.
Dera (12:10:58 AM): I was thinking about the same sort of thing. XD
Tsunafish (12:11:02 AM): xD ff
Tsunafish (12:11:08 AM): god we are terrible.
Dera (12:11:16 AM): We... really are. xD
Dera (12:11:23 AM): ...Giotto agrees.
Tsunafish (12:11:32 AM): I'm sorry I'm such a threat to your mental health orz
Dera (12:13:25 AM): God. I kind of feel sorry for Giotto. XD
Revvy (12:13:35 AM): sob
Tsunafish (12:13:43 AM): j-just a little bit
Dera (12:13:47 AM): He is getting so mentally/emotionally fucked.
Tsunafish (12:14:12 AM): Yyyyeah.
Dera (12:14:23 AM): It also does not help that.
Dera (12:14:27 AM): He has feelings for Val.
Tsunafish (12:14:38 AM): Ahaha, no, no it doesn't.
Round 4:
Dera (12:55:16 AM): ...Giotto-muse is displeased so much. Fff.
Dera (12:55:37 AM): ...Not that his opinion matters. He'll just have to deal.
Revvy (12:55:42 AM): ;;;
Tsunafish (12:55:42 AM): sob xD
Tsunafish (12:55:44 AM): fff.
Revvy (12:56:07 AM): Revvy: >:
Tsunafish (12:56:27 AM): just be grateful we aren't likely to get the "real" ones anytime soon, man.
Dera (12:56:41 AM): ...N-No kidding.
Tsunafish (12:57:00 AM): nngh.
Dera (12:57:10 AM): If Giotto makes it off this island without breaking.
Dera (12:57:15 AM): It will be a miracle.
Revvy (12:57:19 AM): XD
Tsunafish (12:57:19 AM): sob
Dera (12:57:30 AM): ---actually.
Dera (12:57:33 AM): On that note.
Dera (12:57:54 AM): About breaking people.
Revvy (12:58:01 AM): ... ogawdwhat
Dera (12:58:07 AM): Doesn't that just make them easier targets for the merwhores.
Revvy (12:58:26 AM): ... kufu~?
Dera (12:58:32 AM): FFF.
Tsunafish (12:58:38 AM): ahahaha
Dera (12:58:50 AM): Why does this all work so well it hurts>
Tsunafish (12:58:58 AM): I-I don't know
Revvy (12:59:01 AM): XD
Revvy (12:59:08 AM): because it was meant to be?
Tsunafish (12:59:17 AM): Amano is such a troll it's affecting things like this
Tsunafish (12:59:23 AM): HOW DOES SHE DO IT
Revvy (12:59:46 AM): .... I kinda wonder if whatever Team Persona + Fran find underground should hint to this
Tsunafish (12:59:54 AM): oh snap.
Round 5:
Dera (1:02:06 AM): I... Honestly don't know how Giotto would respond if Val asked him about Spade.
Tsunafish (1:02:34 AM): xD
Tsunafish (1:03:07 AM): He...probably won't. At least not for a while.
Tsunafish (1:03:35 AM): Actually, I don't think there's really a reason to ask.
Tsunafish (1:03:42 AM): But. It's possible Spade might be mentioned.
Tsunafish (1:04:18 AM): in a sort of... 'this weird parallel bullshit is going on' sort of way.
Dera (1:04:38 AM): Yeah. XD
Dera (1:04:52 AM): Giotto would... probably just go along with it.
Tsunafish (1:05:13 AM): xD
Dera (1:05:42 AM): But if he did notice inconsistencies with his memories. Then Spade was mentioned.
Dera (1:06:17 AM): It would definitely kind of click into place that something was going on. Probably not knowing exactly what. But it would definitely be a sign to him.
Round 6:
Tsunafish (1:26:05 AM): I just find it terribly sad that in the event Giotto breaks, Val..isn't going to be able to make it better. Because he's part of the problem. xD
Dera (1:26:19 AM): kjdfsjlf
Dera (1:27:01 AM): ...Also given Val probably wouldn't even know why.
Dera (1:27:24 AM): Because Giotto isn't going to tell him. So Val would have to find out on his own to begin with.
Tsunafish (1:27:36 AM): Yeep.
Dera (1:27:53 AM): Hell, it would probably even be put down to the who Revya situation.
Dera (1:28:04 AM): whole^
Dera (1:29:39 AM): Unless that gets resolved first.
Tsunafish (1:29:56 AM): ..if it ever does. xD
Dera (1:30:13 AM): Who knows at this point. XD
Tsunafish (1:30:21 AM): it is a mystery